tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post1274891514695248817..comments2024-03-28T15:39:28.239-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: Jack Conway: The Pope made him do itMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-36979520389679522972014-03-07T12:57:07.204-05:002014-03-07T12:57:07.204-05:00@JS:
'I should say that I'm not American ...@JS:<br /><br />'I should say that I'm not American and therefore possibly misunderstand the US constitution.'<br /><br />Neither am I - and I am certainly no constitutional scholar, but then neither is Martin. KyCobb is the best person to ask.<br /><br />This case seems to be fairly clear-cut, however, which is why judge after judge is ruling these sorts of laws unconstitutional.<br Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-44069223330973520222014-03-07T12:53:29.114-05:002014-03-07T12:53:29.114-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-5655552434498676012014-03-07T10:20:00.412-05:002014-03-07T10:20:00.412-05:00I can see that a society is perfectly free to alte...<i>I can see that a society is perfectly free to alter the legal definition of marriage because it chooses to but I do not see how you can argue that the very existence of the definition is unconstitutional </i><br /><br />I'm not singring, but ...<br /><br />The issues here is not the evils that the voters of Kentucky wish to inflict on residents of the Commonwealth. Rather, it is the Arthttp://aghunt.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-80774150106064829712014-03-07T08:49:23.274-05:002014-03-07T08:49:23.274-05:00Singring,
I'm still unclear as to your assump...Singring,<br /><br />I'm still unclear as to your assumption here as well. You seem to be saying that courts have found Kentucky's definition of marriage unconstitutional and therefore the burden of proof is on anyone who disagrees with that ruling. <br /><br />I'm I correct on that?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-1531191620836983172014-03-07T07:24:07.988-05:002014-03-07T07:24:07.988-05:00I don't think too highly of your religious bas...I don't think too highly of your religious base's ability to figure out much of anything on their own. They'll fall for pretty much whatever their leaders tell them. Like voting for a party that is thirsty for war all over the planet in order to gain profits for their corporate masters while preaching that they are the "christian right"? Voting for the "christian Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-47206318648210817282014-03-07T04:47:46.808-05:002014-03-07T04:47:46.808-05:00@singring. I'm not taking sides in the gay mar...@singring. I'm not taking sides in the gay marriage debate but can you clarify your argument for me on logical grounds? I should say that I'm not American and therefore possibly misunderstand the US constitution. I can see that a society is perfectly free to alter the legal definition of marriage because it chooses to but I do not see how you can argue that the very existence of the JSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-26997762128261879142014-03-07T02:57:51.543-05:002014-03-07T02:57:51.543-05:00'We're supposed to change our laws because...'We're supposed to change our laws because of what you predict they may be in the future?'<br /><br />No. You're not supposed to pass laws that violate the constitution.<br /><br />For someone who supports the party that is supposedly all about defending the constitution, you pay remarkably little attention to it.<br /><br />Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-67216040845780171902014-03-06T22:45:52.965-05:002014-03-06T22:45:52.965-05:00Singring,
As everywhere else, support for gay mar...Singring,<br /><br /><i>As everywhere else, support for gay marriage in Kentucky is growing. But neither myself nor kycobb are making the argument from popularity. You are, or at least you were up until a few hours ago.</i><br /><br />The polls in Kentucky are still heavily in favor of traditional marriage. We're supposed to change our laws because of what you predict they may be in the Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-13654705397978760502014-03-06T22:06:45.898-05:002014-03-06T22:06:45.898-05:00Singring,
Are you saying that Judge Heyburn found...Singring,<br /><br />Are you saying that Judge Heyburn found Kentucky's definition of marriage as a relationship between one man and one woman to be in violation of the 14th Amendment?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-18715162710165868392014-03-06T21:12:48.195-05:002014-03-06T21:12:48.195-05:00Anonymous,
Playing my religious base against me? ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Playing my religious base against me? You really think my "religious base" fell for that?<br /><br />In this new world of yours will they be able to recognize a double standard when they see one?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-28122640462399146252014-03-06T20:03:45.509-05:002014-03-06T20:03:45.509-05:00" It won't effect your marriage in any wa..." It won't effect your marriage in any way. "<br /><br />KyCobb, that's "affect." I can tolerate your leftist bias and unearned 'tude, but poor grammar is inexcusable.Old Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11146916266682461688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-82314700592446283002014-03-06T18:09:08.875-05:002014-03-06T18:09:08.875-05:00Crickets chirping? That's actually the sound o...Crickets chirping? That's actually the sound of distant laughter, past whatever hill is in between yourself and louisville. Don't be mad because Conway is playing your religious base against you. Your bigotry is dying, let it go, evolve. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-77143997108959552412014-03-06T10:42:51.950-05:002014-03-06T10:42:51.950-05:00But then, Martin, once the Supreme Court strikes d...But then, Martin, once the Supreme Court strikes down all the same-sex marriage bans next year or early 2016, what will you have lost? Absolutely nothing. It won't effect your marriage in any way. But same-sex couples and their children will be big winners, as they will finally have national access to the benefits of marriage. That is the interesting thing about conservatism; its always KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-38773596153003490322014-03-06T07:59:56.658-05:002014-03-06T07:59:56.658-05:00Such a small post packs a big punch, I think you p...Such a small post packs a big punch, I think you pretty much summed that one up in a nutshell (coincidentally where Conway belongs)Katie Casabellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181863942569628979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-20736204956395201572014-03-05T21:35:12.917-05:002014-03-05T21:35:12.917-05:00Hey, its a lot more fun to be on the side that'...Hey, its a lot more fun to be on the side that's winning. I know, because ten years ago we were losing a lot, and that wasn't fun.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-83564730876480868652014-03-05T20:27:09.333-05:002014-03-05T20:27:09.333-05:00As everywhere else, support for gay marriage in Ke...As everywhere else, support for gay marriage in Kentucky is growing. But neither myself nor kycobb are making the argument from popularity. You are, or at least you were up until a few hours ago. <br /> <br />Myself and kycobb are arguing from the constitution. This law was unconstitutional because it violated the 14th amendment. If you want to argue that it is constitutional, it is now your Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-5606379801526569062014-03-05T19:55:12.281-05:002014-03-05T19:55:12.281-05:00Singring,
You mean you saw an actually argument i...Singring,<br /><br />You mean you saw an actually argument in KyCobb's comment? Really? Let's see:<br /><br />Premise 1: Rah, rah<br />Premise 2: Sis boom bah<br />Conclusion: gay marriage, gay marriage, rah, rah, rah!<br /><br />Is that it?<br /><br />Oh, and by the way, have you looked that polls in Kentucky on this issue? I mean since you're so enamored of the support for gay Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-38259410864894233252014-03-05T19:52:18.045-05:002014-03-05T19:52:18.045-05:00'Just keep cheer-leading for winning team. Sha...'Just keep cheer-leading for winning team. Shake those pom-poms!'<br /><br />Oh, now all of a sudden the majority is dismissed as the 'winning team'? <br /><br />LOL.<br /><br />Not two days ago you were fulminating that voters were being 'disenfranchised', yet every time someone shows you that a) support for gay marriage is growing at an incredible pace and b) a national Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-85503907156932775222014-03-05T19:34:19.441-05:002014-03-05T19:34:19.441-05:00KyCobb,
Just keep cheer-leading for winning team....KyCobb,<br /><br />Just keep cheer-leading for winning team. Shake those pom-poms!Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-36206671961099482842014-03-05T19:00:46.998-05:002014-03-05T19:00:46.998-05:00Martin,
You're losing, and fulminating about ...Martin,<br /><br />You're losing, and fulminating about Conway not joining your losing cause won't change that.<br /><br />http://www.langerresearch.com/uploads/1159a2GayMarriage.pdfKyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-54308780917866942962014-03-05T16:08:02.065-05:002014-03-05T16:08:02.065-05:00Hey, maybe he'll go for a ban on contraceptive...Hey, maybe he'll go for a ban on contraceptives. You never know.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-40876742177289397962014-03-05T15:34:06.469-05:002014-03-05T15:34:06.469-05:00So this makes Conway anti-abortion, right?So this makes Conway anti-abortion, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com