tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post4101615669188294354..comments2024-03-28T15:39:28.239-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: Groups the Southern Poverty Law Center HatesMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-67239393464613950212011-02-25T17:32:53.971-05:002011-02-25T17:32:53.971-05:00Martin,
You should probably do more research befo...Martin,<br /><br />You should probably do more research before stating who qualifies as a hate group under SPLC criteria. Its website states, "Viewing homosexuality as unbiblical does not qualify organizations for listing as hate groups."KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-22773954835875521182011-02-25T17:17:57.543-05:002011-02-25T17:17:57.543-05:00Martin,
Can you provide a link where the SPLC has...Martin,<br /><br />Can you provide a link where the SPLC has identified those churches as hate groups?KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-18442263845471796112011-02-25T16:17:16.798-05:002011-02-25T16:17:16.798-05:00In fact, by the SPLC's stated criteria most Pr...In fact, by the SPLC's stated criteria most Protestant churches, the Eastern Orthodox churches, the Anglican Churches, and the Catholic Church are hate groups.<br /><br />Do you think these groups are hate groups?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-18459433967594535582011-02-25T15:22:22.570-05:002011-02-25T15:22:22.570-05:00Martin,
I haven't read the FRC's politica...Martin,<br /><br />I haven't read the FRC's political platform, nor was I aware that it had been labeled a hate group.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-58862971828333832642011-02-25T15:01:29.582-05:002011-02-25T15:01:29.582-05:00What civil right is, say, the Family Research Coun...What civil right is, say, the Family Research Council denying?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-23829750824810873972011-02-25T14:57:56.884-05:002011-02-25T14:57:56.884-05:00Martin,
It depends on what the principle is. if ...Martin,<br /><br />It depends on what the principle is. if a group's principle is that the state should deny civil rights to people solely because of the color of their skin, their religious beliefs, or their sexual orientation, then I would consider that a hate group.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-90423573805606790222011-02-25T13:15:23.801-05:002011-02-25T13:15:23.801-05:00KyCobb,
How do you define "hatred"? Doe...KyCobb,<br /><br />How do you define "hatred"? Does it it include principled political disagreement with someone else?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-28669895997914973122011-02-25T10:38:02.824-05:002011-02-25T10:38:02.824-05:00Richard,
Considering the way right-wing groups ra...Richard,<br /><br />Considering the way right-wing groups raise boatloads of money by sending out hysterical letters about imaginary threats, you are throwing stones from a glass house. Fear and hatred of gays, muslims and Mexicans is being pimped by the Right at ever-increasing levels.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-69718405008442986052011-02-25T07:59:12.952-05:002011-02-25T07:59:12.952-05:001. There is no legal definition for “hate group,” ...1. There is no legal definition for “hate group,” which is why even the FBI does not track “hate groups.”<br /><br />2. The SPLC uses the deliberately meaningless term “hate groups” in its fund-raising propaganda precisely because it allows them to denigrate their perceived opponents without accusing them of any actual crimes.<br /><br />3. The “Hate Map” is a fund-raising tool, nothing more. It Richard Keefehttp://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-27534766174993344382011-02-25T07:42:23.871-05:002011-02-25T07:42:23.871-05:00P.S.
Your position doesn't seem to be support...P.S.<br /><br />Your position doesn't seem to be supported by the facts. On the SPLC website, it identified only 17 anti-gay hate groups. The overwhelming majority of hate groups are racist. All of the hate groups the SPLC identified in Ky. are racist, including two black separatist groups.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-28255848615339037582011-02-25T07:31:49.370-05:002011-02-25T07:31:49.370-05:00Martin,
Its hard to see how groups opposed to civ...Martin,<br /><br />Its hard to see how groups opposed to civil rights for homosexuals aren't hate groups. Any group that exists for the purpose of oppressing others almost by definition has to be a hate group.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.com