tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post490072659093321118..comments2024-03-28T15:39:28.239-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: Why Traditional Logic Doesn't Employ Truth TablesMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-61043368270705319802016-01-27T13:53:57.425-05:002016-01-27T13:53:57.425-05:00David,
I have posted the first of two responses t...David,<br /><br />I have posted the first of two responses to your points here in a fresh post: http://vereloqui.blogspot.com/2016/01/are-traditional-and-modern-logic-really.htmlMartin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-22955529720044948062016-01-27T11:15:46.039-05:002016-01-27T11:15:46.039-05:00"Traditional logic does not attempt to reduce..."Traditional logic does not attempt to reduce logic to a quantitative calculus, largely because it views logic as a linguistic and metaphysical art, not a technical mathematical calculus."<br /><br />Surely this is just wrong? 'Traditional logic' also views logic as a formal tool, one which it is necessary to master *before* attempting something like metaphysics. It can be David McPikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-63860261314731878562015-12-22T15:19:14.750-05:002015-12-22T15:19:14.750-05:00Leo,
I have posted a response to the first part o...Leo,<br /><br />I have posted a response to the first part of your comment here on another, new post to bring this discussion back out on the main web page. It is here: http://vereloqui.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-necessary-is-knowledge-of-modern.htmlMartin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-18873846081784911162015-12-20T19:33:02.385-05:002015-12-20T19:33:02.385-05:00Isn't relevance logic a way of dealing with th...Isn't <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-relevance/" rel="nofollow">relevance logic</a> a way of dealing with these issues from within modern logic itself?Jayson Virissimohttp://virissimo.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-55225540498037766192015-12-20T18:26:41.851-05:002015-12-20T18:26:41.851-05:00Hello Mr. Cothran,
I have objections to a couple ...Hello Mr. Cothran,<br /><br />I have objections to a couple of the points you made in this post.<br /><br />1) Yes, if the only application of logic is to be debate, et cetera, then truth tables are usually unnecessary. On the other hand, much of logic is usually unnecessary to see basic validity, as many arguments can be seen to be valid or invalid without any conscious analysis. Bringing theUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11192781324084436024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-38232450734291272592015-12-19T12:46:18.483-05:002015-12-19T12:46:18.483-05:00"But what is the utility of traditional logic..."But what is the utility of traditional logic?"<br /><br /><br />Forensic analysis. Just as in the time of the ancient Greeks, when a social engineer or politician was making a claim to an audience that you should agree to Y because it "followed" from X.DNWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-88682003869327527632015-11-28T21:00:44.104-05:002015-11-28T21:00:44.104-05:00In the modern system, ...
If the moon is made of ...In the modern system, ...<br /><br />If the moon is made of green cheese, then ducks can swim<br /><br />are considered true statements, ...<br />While modern logic considers this statement true, traditional logic sees it, again, for what it is: nonsense. The moon being made of green cheese clearly has no relation (logical or otherwise) to the fact that ducks are able to swim.<br />-------------Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-66826002252353502072015-11-25T01:17:51.350-05:002015-11-25T01:17:51.350-05:00I have read the beginning of the logic post from y...I have read the beginning of the logic post from years ago and wondered why it was never completed. It would be nice to read the whole thing. I have read the referenced article by Kreeft.<br /> I took one logic course in college many years ago and certainly don't understand many of the terms. I try to keep my lack of knowledge in mind, but it is hard to accept some of Kreeft's statements,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com