tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post5422776593045285279..comments2024-03-04T05:55:35.225-05:00Comments on Vital Remnants: The next thing to go, care of same-sex "marriage" advocates: Incest lawsMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-86882921980201938492010-12-18T18:01:07.688-05:002010-12-18T18:01:07.688-05:00'I have never said Global Warming isn't ha...'I have never said Global Warming isn't happening.'<br /><br />And I never said I don;t believe in God. See how these things work, Martin?<br /><br />I can;t belive you hold your readers in such low esteem that you will make these ridiculous excuses, as if we were to stupid to read.<br /><br />What was your most recent post about the UK winter meant to do but counter GW? It had Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-35399364831618014862010-12-18T16:55:35.120-05:002010-12-18T16:55:35.120-05:00Singring,
Maybe you haven't been around this ...Singring,<br /><br />Maybe you haven't been around this blog long enough to understand my position. I have never said Global Warming isn't happening. What I have done is asked the question how a position on Global Warming can be considered scientific when it is not falsifiable, since all evidence is seen as confirming it.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-28465967021405004172010-12-18T16:50:54.546-05:002010-12-18T16:50:54.546-05:00Singring,
There is an easy way to justify your ch...Singring,<br /><br />There is an easy way to justify your charge. Just find the place where I said there is no global warming. I have provided you with a Google search on my main page.<br /><br />Go ahead. You have a chance to actually prove the truth of your charge.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-51381094524503107692010-12-18T16:42:41.699-05:002010-12-18T16:42:41.699-05:00'It is purely your confusion between weather a...'It is purely your confusion between weather and climate that caused this misinterpretation'<br /><br />LOL. Yeah - I'M the one confusing weather with climate...let me quote your post in question:<br /><br />'Now we go back to Global War ..., er, I mean Climate Change alarmists to explain why this is evidence for Global Warming...'<br /><br />So in fact it was YOU who cited a Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-15006439549920166462010-12-18T16:38:50.288-05:002010-12-18T16:38:50.288-05:00Martin, you are a grand-master of backpedaling, I&...Martin, you are a grand-master of backpedaling, I'll give you that.<br /><br />You could write a post titled 'Moon is made of curdled milk!' and when someone pointed out to you that it is in fact made of rock, you would say 'I never said it was made of cheese! Never happened! ou guys fall for it every time...'.<br /><br />It is pathetic behaviour and not worthy of someone Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-16589879296583667272010-12-18T16:04:33.518-05:002010-12-18T16:04:33.518-05:00It explains for example why you think that a cold ...<i>It explains for example why you think that a cold winter in the UK is evidence against GW when it is the opposite. </i><br /><br />Where did I argue on the basis of the UK weather than temperatures were not increasing globally? Never happened. It is purely your confusion between weather and climate that caused this misinterpretation, which is ironic, given that you Warmers are the ones who Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-7084255860631576642010-12-18T16:03:40.632-05:002010-12-18T16:03:40.632-05:00Singring,
Let's go over the inaccuracies, ove...Singring,<br /><br />Let's go over the inaccuracies, overstatements, and bad inferences in your post, shall we? <br /><br /><i>I know you would you like it better if I claimed it was 'self-evident'.</i><br /><br />At least then it wouldn't be circular.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-84897652659589255452010-12-18T15:39:19.983-05:002010-12-18T15:39:19.983-05:00'And on what do you base your opposition to in...'And on what do you base your opposition to incest, assuming you oppose it.'<br /><br />Since I already laid out why I do I simply have to assume that you have stopped even bothering to read my posts.<br /><br />'But I remain unimpressed by circular arguments.'<br /><br />I know you would you like it better if I claimed it was 'self-evident'.<br /><br />'And you still Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-72598027982328931742010-12-17T18:15:50.498-05:002010-12-17T18:15:50.498-05:00Martin,
It doesn't look like Touchstone provi...Martin,<br /><br />It doesn't look like Touchstone provides free links to those two Esolen articles.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-8685516875001395972010-12-17T18:03:33.492-05:002010-12-17T18:03:33.492-05:00Martin,
I thought you had a family, so I have tro...Martin,<br /><br />I thought you had a family, so I have trouble believing that you can't understand how incest would disrupt normal family relationships. I suggest you read the Slate article I mentioned. I also don't understand how you think one couple's homosexual relationship would disrupt a different couple's heterosexual relationship. I will try to find the article you KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-22251177993693130502010-12-17T16:55:47.082-05:002010-12-17T16:55:47.082-05:00Singring,
Yes, you have explained to me your posi...Singring,<br /><br />Yes, you have explained to me your position that induction can be justified by appealing to induction. But I remain unimpressed by circular arguments.<br /><br />And you still haven't explained how appealing to intuition is relativistic. I believe absolutely that my intuitions are correct.<br /><br />And on what do you base your opposition to incest, assuming you opposeMartin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-61474356265234914942010-12-17T16:37:04.187-05:002010-12-17T16:37:04.187-05:00'And for the same reason you accept induction ...'And for the same reason you accept induction and causation: because it's self-evident.'<br /><br />I don't accept causation or induction because they are self-evident.<br /><br />I accept the former to the extent that is is supported by evidence and the latter to the extent that it proves useful.<br /><br />By the way, it is once again ironic that you try to distort my position Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-8423695914263124342010-12-17T16:32:14.763-05:002010-12-17T16:32:14.763-05:00'For the same reason I oppose cannibalism: it&...'For the same reason I oppose cannibalism: it's icky.'<br /><br />I am so glad to see that you are now comfortable with accepting your moral relativism, Martin.Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-12513713465032666692010-12-17T14:02:18.838-05:002010-12-17T14:02:18.838-05:00And for the same reason you accept induction and c...And for the same reason you accept induction and causation: because it's self-evident.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-63885039516975474942010-12-17T14:01:20.482-05:002010-12-17T14:01:20.482-05:00Singring,
So, Martin - why do YOU oppose legal in...Singring,<br /><br /><i>So, Martin - why do YOU oppose legal incest?</i><br /><br />For the same reason I oppose cannibalism: it's icky.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-20134559863274556402010-12-17T10:02:50.356-05:002010-12-17T10:02:50.356-05:00'biological factors that are disrupted by same...'biological factors that are disrupted by same-sex practices'<br /><br />Which are?<br /><br />Oh...right, I forgot. They're 'self-evident'.<br /><br />Personally, I do not object to any consensual, mutually agrred upon sexual relationship.<br /><br />However, I do think both incest and sexual relationships between minors and adults in general should not be legal.<br /><br />Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-73603759186845277812010-12-16T22:26:36.666-05:002010-12-16T22:26:36.666-05:00KyCobb,
I believe I posted the link to Anthony Es...KyCobb,<br /><br />I believe I posted the link to Anthony Esolen's article on same-sex marriage to answer your question, since he goes over ten of them (actually I think they are continued in a second article in Touchstone with I never linked to, but which you can find at Touchstone's website)<br /><br />But I'm still curious about these family dynamics that incest disrupts and why Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-6024834903329496312010-12-16T22:13:01.562-05:002010-12-16T22:13:01.562-05:00There is a very good article in Slate which discus...There is a very good article in Slate which discusses the difference between incest and homosexuality. With incest, there is a pre-existing family dynamic which is seriously disrupted by incestuous relations. Thus there is a rational basis for prohibiting incest which doesn't exist in regards to homosexual relationships between unrelated persons.<br /><br />Which reminds me, Martin. AwhileKyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-73107405154990846512010-12-16T20:58:18.550-05:002010-12-16T20:58:18.550-05:00What is it about the family dynamic that interfere...What is it about the family dynamic that interferes with genuine consent?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-51591906094969923602010-12-16T20:54:40.230-05:002010-12-16T20:54:40.230-05:00Most of the liberals are citing things like the ov...Most of the liberals are citing things like the overarching family dynamic that interferes with an abiltiy to form genuine consent, and are opposed to incest on that basis. I tend to agree.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.com