tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post559294264609894591..comments2024-03-28T15:39:28.239-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: Why the "One" is now the "Chosen One": Five reasons Obama wonMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-2565879104074520472008-11-06T22:10:00.000-05:002008-11-06T22:10:00.000-05:00Progress!MC asserts: When the fertilized cell has ...Progress!<BR/><BR/>MC asserts: When the fertilized cell has a complete set of 46 chromosomes, it is a new human person. <BR/><BR/><BR/>The point of my discourse is not to examine the details of conception but to show that one can not biologically define a point when an egg and sperm become a person. It is this moment at which many people believe that life and personhood begins. For whatever Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-42611408179990643882008-11-06T19:57:00.000-05:002008-11-06T19:57:00.000-05:00Jah, I suggest consulting a biologist at your loca...Jah, <BR/><BR/>I suggest consulting a biologist at your local university. I gave the following definition of conception:<BR/><BR/><I>The process of union of two gametes whereby the somatic chromosome number is restored and the development of a new individual is initiated</I><BR/><BR/>When the fertilized cell has a complete set of 46 chromosomes, it is a new human person. That was my assertion.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-76694566566723305532008-11-06T02:08:00.000-05:002008-11-06T02:08:00.000-05:00http://www.nature.com/fertility/content/full/ncb-n...http://www.nature.com/fertility/content/full/ncb-nm-fertilitys57.html<BR/><BR/>[References and figures at above link or available upon request.]<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Review<BR/>Nature Cell Biology 4 (S1), S57_S63 (2002)<BR/>Nature Medicine 8 (S1), S57_S63 (2002)<BR/>The state of the union: the cell biology of fertilization<BR/>Janice P. Evans1 & Harvey M. Florman2<BR/>1 Department of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-86834596217163464452008-11-06T02:01:00.000-05:002008-11-06T02:01:00.000-05:00MC: Exactly how long do you think conception takes...MC: Exactly how long do you think conception takes?<BR/><BR/>Exactly? There is no exact answer. The amount of time for conception depends in part on definition and is also I am sure quite variable. The important fact is that the process does take a finite amount of time and involves a number of steps. I have claimed nature can not be easily categorized into boxes (except for quantum phenomena). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-1075581822312128742008-11-06T00:49:00.000-05:002008-11-06T00:49:00.000-05:00Jah,Exactly how long do you think conception takes...Jah,<BR/><BR/>Exactly how long do you think conception takes?Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-3173854814505259792008-11-05T19:02:00.000-05:002008-11-05T19:02:00.000-05:00Perhaps that will give Mr Cothran more time to add...Perhaps that will give Mr Cothran more time to address other issues, such as at what point in conception non-life becomes person. [Or use lee's example and say at what point a pile of parts becomes a Honda Accord and what are the essential or extraneous parts.]<BR/><BR/><BR/>jahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-71223183770524453912008-11-05T17:56:00.000-05:002008-11-05T17:56:00.000-05:00Gee, Jah beat me to the punch. I was working on a...Gee, Jah beat me to the punch. I was working on an entire "I told you so" post referencing my Obama prediction early in the election.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-1163415463730176992008-11-05T17:46:00.000-05:002008-11-05T17:46:00.000-05:00McCain is obviously just not a "True Scotsman."McCain is obviously just not a "True Scotsman."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-45509137180699040702008-11-05T14:55:00.000-05:002008-11-05T14:55:00.000-05:007) Whatever side spends the most almost always win...7) Whatever side spends the most almost always wins.<BR/><BR/>8) When the economy and war and everything else is going badly, the other party is likely to win.<BR/><BR/>9) And don't forget Mr Cothran predicted an Obama victory way back in the primaries before he even came up with these reasons.<BR/><BR/><BR/>1) "radical" ?<BR/><BR/><BR/>But bad times are coming now. See this column by a member ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-91751264656648721752008-11-05T11:34:00.000-05:002008-11-05T11:34:00.000-05:00Now John McCain can go back to being the media's d...Now John McCain can go back to being the media's darling Republican. Bless his mavericky widdle heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com