tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post5886283296752063999..comments2024-03-28T15:28:22.595-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: On Ducking Debates: Is Dawkins really chickening out?Martin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-78276419631891208882014-01-28T08:10:34.680-05:002014-01-28T08:10:34.680-05:00Arif Ahmed ripped Craig a new asshole. If you want...Arif Ahmed ripped Craig a new asshole. If you want to see a good debate look him up. On the whole "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is in no way a good argument for God. A person can do that for Santa claus, the loch ness monster and even to the belief that Jesus was nothing more than a sorcerer. Imagine someone asks how do you know Jesus was not a sorcerer? The ancient Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-65312007778787530702012-02-18T12:54:01.476-05:002012-02-18T12:54:01.476-05:00Firstly if Dawkins believes he is right then why n...Firstly if Dawkins believes he is right then why not, he loses much more acting scared than facing the challenge. Actions speak louder than words....<br /><br />Craig never issued any of these challenges they have always come from other institutions that want the debate.<br /><br />I have watched a few of Craigs debates, including one with Hitchens who pulls some dishonest tactics- stalling for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-25422032529574416702011-10-26T11:25:24.718-04:002011-10-26T11:25:24.718-04:00> I think in general Dawkins doesn't like t...> I think in general Dawkins doesn't like to give people like Craig credibility by appearing with them.<br /><br />That's a plausible explanation. But one way to give credibility to someone who disagrees with you is to lose an argument.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974887002402743628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-84639941651850840942011-10-26T09:59:41.976-04:002011-10-26T09:59:41.976-04:00I think in general Dawkins doesn't like to giv...I think in general Dawkins doesn't like to give people like Craig credibility by appearing with them. I would appreciate it if a theist such as Lee or Martin could explain on what basis it is possible to philosophically conclude that the uncaused cause is self aware and has emotions and reasons for doing things.KyCobbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-13308368715577706172011-10-25T09:46:15.418-04:002011-10-25T09:46:15.418-04:00'Whereas neither Dawkins nor Hitchens would ev...'Whereas neither Dawkins nor Hitchens would ever take advantage of their particularly formidable, but logically irrelevant, strengths (e.g., Dawkin's haughty posture of superior academic authority, Hitchens' rhetorical brilliance) to unfairly influence public opinion?'<br /><br />It is up for the audience to decide whether or not this is the case, no? I mean, if someone is swayed Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-82951388550825122142011-10-25T09:06:58.692-04:002011-10-25T09:06:58.692-04:00> Lee, have you ever heard a debate by William ...> Lee, have you ever heard a debate by William Lane Craig?<br /><br />Never heard of the guy, until now.<br /><br />> Craig is so trained and polished, it takes some preparation to engage with his nonsense.<br /><br />Whereas neither Dawkins nor Hitchens would ever take advantage of their particularly formidable, but logically irrelevant, strengths (e.g., Dawkin's haughty posture of Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974887002402743628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-88163091455750859112011-10-25T08:27:40.277-04:002011-10-25T08:27:40.277-04:00'But they do have more important things to do ...'But they do have more important things to do than to state their objections in a philosophically coherent manner, in a venue where their statements can be directly challenged and a response to those challenges solicited.'<br /><br />Lee, have you ever heard a debate by William Lane Craig? A debate with Craig is much more about performance than actual debate. Craig is so trained and Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-34190477177253361662011-10-25T07:47:25.257-04:002011-10-25T07:47:25.257-04:00> This is probably primarily because Dawkins an...> This is probably primarily because Dawkins and his fellows actually have more important things to do with their time and do not get paid for coming up with excuses for believeing in God (as Craig does).<br /><br />They obviously don't have more important things to do than to write books denouncing religion -- they seem to make time for that, and to relish it.<br /><br />But they do have Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974887002402743628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-67466110947836776242011-10-25T07:43:33.095-04:002011-10-25T07:43:33.095-04:00> Anyone who is familiar with Craig's formu...> Anyone who is familiar with Craig's formulaic and downright dishonest debate tactic's needs no more than a few minutes to publicly humiliate the man.<br /><br />What is wrong with Craig's argument?Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974887002402743628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-22902769591728479892011-10-24T11:37:28.600-04:002011-10-24T11:37:28.600-04:00Anyone who is familiar with Craig's formulaic ...Anyone who is familiar with Craig's formulaic and downright dishonest debate tactic's needs no more than a few minutes to publicly humiliate the man.<br /><br />However - and this is a criticism of Dawkins, Hitchens et al. that I will freely make - very few atheist debaters have much interest in thoroughly preparing for such debates. This is probably primarily because Dawkins and his Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.com