tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post5913239812882918443..comments2024-03-28T15:39:28.239-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: Science and philosophyMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-86301601542088486462010-10-01T05:48:53.461-04:002010-10-01T05:48:53.461-04:00'I said, in several different ways, that in as...'I said, in several different ways, that in asking me to give a reason why science is not the only avenue to truth you assume that that is one, since giving reasons for something in the process of arguing for a position is engaging in philosophy. If philosophy is not an avenue to truth, then there is no sense in even asking the question.'<br /><br />I'm sorry, but this is just not theSingringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-58020772040489372842010-09-30T23:54:48.660-04:002010-09-30T23:54:48.660-04:00Singring,
Okay so now we know you think pointing ...Singring,<br /><br />Okay so now we know you think pointing out that someone's argument is not valid is "deflecting." The argument is invalid. The conclusion does not follow from the premises. <br /><br />And you apparently just didn't understand my post. I said, in several different ways, that in asking me to give a reason why science is not the only avenue to truth you Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-18908258537502736352010-09-30T06:30:05.073-04:002010-09-30T06:30:05.073-04:00'2. Your unicorns argument is NOT valid. It co...'2. Your unicorns argument is NOT valid. It commits the fallacy of four terms.'<br /><br />It is logically consistent, is it not? Stop deflecting - you understand the point I was making. So what exactly does philosophy tell us about reality that science can't?<br /><br />You still haven't asnwered that question. You may have valid criticisms on the formulation of my arguments - Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-22050086680757911122010-09-29T23:41:00.398-04:002010-09-29T23:41:00.398-04:00Singring,
1. Logic IS a branch of philosophy, and...Singring,<br /><br />1. Logic IS a branch of philosophy, and it has nothing to do with its historical development.<br /><br />2. Your unicorns argument is NOT valid. It commits the fallacy of four terms.<br /><br />3. Because you can produce a bazillion examples of how science leads to truth has exactly nothing to do with the question of whether it only leads to truth.<br /><br />4. The fact Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-13933801956865904402010-09-29T18:47:23.315-04:002010-09-29T18:47:23.315-04:00Another Singring missing comment:
Thanks for fina...Another Singring missing comment:<br /><br />Thanks for finally adressing the issues raised, Martin. I really do appreciate it. I am just the more disappointed that the post you have composed in response is so obviously misrepresentative of my position that it will take little effort to highlight its inadequacies.<br /><br />'has been pestering me'<br /><br />I have been 'pestering&#Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-54819019093761150822010-09-29T18:44:09.857-04:002010-09-29T18:44:09.857-04:00Several comments have just disappeared, so I am re...Several comments have just disappeared, so I am reposting them from the notification e-mails I got:<br /><br />I would have thanked you for this post, Martin, if it had actually adressed anything of substance. <br /><br />1.) You linked to the wrong post, thus making it harder for people to find my words in the context of our discussion. I doubt this was intentional, but I would ask you to Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-14387567941704950402010-09-29T16:48:17.539-04:002010-09-29T16:48:17.539-04:00Singring, I suggest you check out the blog
athei...Singring, I suggest you check out the blog<br /> <br />atheism-analyzed.blogspot.com <br /><br />for basics in rational thought starting with the First Principles.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15754447145433452423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-18917608960316165992010-09-29T14:12:00.927-04:002010-09-29T14:12:00.927-04:00That's nice of you, thanks. Two of them may be...That's nice of you, thanks. Two of them may be very similar because I had to rephrase some of it as I reposted. If you think there's redundant material in there feel free to pick which you want to post, they both pretty much sum up what I was trying to say (at least I hope so).Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-79813923813623004282010-09-29T13:39:42.897-04:002010-09-29T13:39:42.897-04:00Singring,
I've got them in my e-mail. I'...Singring,<br /><br />I've got them in my e-mail. I'll just repost them.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-82486930164971561782010-09-29T10:49:30.532-04:002010-09-29T10:49:30.532-04:00Yeah, I sent off a couple of em. They showed up wh...Yeah, I sent off a couple of em. They showed up when I reloaded the page after posting, but were gone a few minutes later. <br /><br />Could be my browser at the University, though. Never mind. If you them you can read them over and consider the criticisms I have made of this post.<br /><br />I didn't save a copy, but I may write an extensive reply on my blog at some stage, its an interestingSingringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-46530333200258711372010-09-28T14:18:32.250-04:002010-09-28T14:18:32.250-04:00I have gotten e-mails indicating comments on this ...I have gotten e-mails indicating comments on this post but don't actually see the comments the comments section. I would be curious if others are seeing any more than two comments (counting this one). I'm wondering if blogspot is having problems.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-52910502901173005042010-09-28T13:16:53.785-04:002010-09-28T13:16:53.785-04:00P.S.: Logic is a branch of philosophy - yes, you m...P.S.: Logic is a branch of philosophy - yes, you might say that, especially in the light of historic development. <br /><br />Logic is also a prerequisite of science. If you want to say that philosophy is nothing but logic, then we are in agreement. But that's not what you are saying, is it?<br /><br />Finally: Any positions that are logically arrived at must have a connection to reality, I&#Singringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180277470418724600noreply@blogger.com