tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post9060462944604794760..comments2024-03-28T15:39:28.239-04:00Comments on Vital Remnants: Why yesterday's election was not a repudiation of cultural conservatismMartin Cothranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-4612093384178040982008-11-06T22:35:00.000-05:002008-11-06T22:35:00.000-05:00Revisiting the subject of repudiation, I would thi...Revisiting the subject of repudiation, I would think that the rejection of the pro-life agenda has to be more worrying for the cultural conservatives than their gay-bashing victories. "Pro-life" is THE one unwavering litmus test for the Republican Party, and we learned on Tuesday that it's a losing proposition. <BR/><BR/>I think it's time for the true conservatives - small government, fiscally Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-41870136166091464212008-11-06T19:48:00.000-05:002008-11-06T19:48:00.000-05:00I can understand if Mr Cothran doesn't understand ...I can understand if Mr Cothran doesn't understand what I write; however he should be able to understand what he wrote.<BR/><BR/>He described a loss as "narrow" but used no adjective for a win which passed by approximately the same margin.<BR/><BR/>If he would attempt to explain what is so difficult to comprehend about that, I can try to explain again.<BR/><BR/>jahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-56688025339200283572008-11-06T19:39:00.000-05:002008-11-06T19:39:00.000-05:00Jah,Your point is dependent upon my having said th...Jah,<BR/><BR/>Your point is dependent upon my having said that the Proposition 8 victory was not a narrow one. Never said it. Of course it was narrow. The point is that it passed at all among people who voted heavily for Obama.<BR/><BR/>But if you want to amuse yourself by arguing against something I didn't say, you just go right ahead.Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-10014410766309060552008-11-06T13:14:00.000-05:002008-11-06T13:14:00.000-05:00To elaborate on Mr Cothran's perhaps unconscious b...To elaborate on Mr Cothran's perhaps unconscious bias, consider this from one of his most referenced blogs:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Robert Novak on on Nov. 6, 2004 after Bush won a narrow victory:<BR/><BR/> Q: Bob Novak, is 51 percent of the vote really a mandate?<BR/><BR/> NOVAK: Of course it is. It's a 3.5 million vote margin. But the people who are saying that it isn't a mandate are the same Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-76005882954500322122008-11-06T00:32:00.000-05:002008-11-06T00:32:00.000-05:00No, I am saying that both are narrow or neither is...No, I am saying that both are narrow or neither is. To apply the adjective "narrow" to one only suggests that there is a significant difference. [Mr Cothran again misinterprets the simple English words I wrote.] As I've pointed out before, he seems to be the sort of person who would say that of legitimate candidates the Palin ticket came in second whereas the Obama ticket came in second to last.<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-81167017397490191822008-11-05T23:26:00.000-05:002008-11-05T23:26:00.000-05:00Art is right about the abortion figures. I actual...Art is right about the abortion figures. I actually wrote #3 intending to go check the Colorado result, which I hadn't seen, and never did. My bad.<BR/><BR/>But I'm not getting Jah's point at all. Is he saying that I said the abortion measure lost narrowly and the same-sex marriage won by some kind of landslide? Again (and this has gotten to be a habit with him) he's reading things into what Martin Cothranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16452612266051351726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-31145956523216551342008-11-05T22:21:00.000-05:002008-11-05T22:21:00.000-05:00MC: Although a very high Democratic turnout result...MC: Although a very high Democratic turnout resulted in narrow losses on ballot initiatives that restricted abortion, same-sex marriage bans passed in states Obama won--Florida and California.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I read Art's comment and looked up some numbers.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't see a significant difference between 52 and 52.5. Yet in California, the abortion proposition had a "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-11970118421892373022008-11-05T19:22:00.000-05:002008-11-05T19:22:00.000-05:00The pro-life agenda "narrowly" lost? 4 points in ...The pro-life agenda "narrowly" lost? 4 points in CA, 46 points in CO, 6 pts in MI, 10 pts in SD - them's the scores. I would say that the electorate has shouted out that the "pro-life" agenda is not in line with the opinions of the overwhelming majority of voter. <BR/><BR/>I suggest, Martin, that you return the calculator that the Discovery Institute loaned you. It doesn't work for you any Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11542449.post-68708050493953775852008-11-05T14:12:00.000-05:002008-11-05T14:12:00.000-05:00MC: In California, although 95 percent of black vo...MC: In California, although 95 percent of black voters went for Obama, they supported Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage 70 to 30, indicating that ...<BR/><BR/>most of them went to public school.<BR/><BR/>jahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com